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March 05, 2008

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Now I understand even more why Mao's Cultural Revolution is a necessary, even though cruel step to unite China and rejuvenate this old and desolate civilization. Before 1949, China is a pile of loose sand and a door step of nations that everybody is welcome to step upon. I used to wonder why that was possible given that the aggressive nations, even Japan never have the manpower to actually occupy China, not to say manage it, as long as China could put up a decent resistance. Now I know, with people ( a whole class of them ) like Cai Gua-Qiang, the so-called intellectuals, that are actively destroy ( deconstruct, whatever ) the symbol of the nation, no wonder China were weak. These weaknesses of China could be very attractive, even artistically by the outsiders.

Want to destroy a nation? First destroy its history, destroy its identity, and destroy its sense of shame. The rest is just cake walking. It can be more effective than the barrel of a gun, or carrier, or the Bomb. That is why the trashes Cai produced are so much valued by the West and Japan. They know what they are paying for.


Isha

So....you don't like Cai because he is not a Chinese nationalist? Is that it?

"In this work, Cai deconstruct the meaning of the Great Wall of China. He pretended to extend the wall, but actually he destroyed it by fire, smoke and the collaboration of the people who have different backgrounds. As a conclusion, Cai deconstructed the meaning of the wall and exposed the meaninglessness of wall which separates the people."

Isn't it quite clear why Cai is rewarded?

I found long ago, " deconstruction" of any national culture except one is very much popular in the American campuses. Why it is so? You know it as well as I do. But one can't discuss it in polite society.

Thought control by the few is almost a complete success story here...

Isha

"The fire slithered along the ground with dignity such as a dragon. It took 15 minutes to reach the end of the fuse in the snowy mountain. This project was achieved by many local Chinese people, 50 Japanese collaborators, 40,000 audiences, critic and Chinese and Japanese politicians.
The fire slithered along the ground with dignity such as a dragon. It took 15 minutes to reach the end of the fuse in the snowy mountain. This project was achieved by many local Chinese people, 50 Japanese collaborators, 40,000 audiences, critic and Chinese and Japanese politicians.

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In this work, Cai deconstruct the meaning of the Great Wall of China.
This is a real collaboration and at least, this project succeeded in removing the emotional wall between two countries, China and Japan."

1. My comment on this:

What kind of Chinese he is? He is Chinese alright. China is one fifth of humanity and has all kinds of people. He is certainly similiar to this guy: Wang Jingwei
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Jingwei

a. What he is trying to "decontruct"? The Great Wall!
b. What is the fault of Great Wall? It separate peoples, in this case Chinese and Japanese?
c. Whose built the Great Wall? you should know...
d. What Great Wall simbolize? You should know... in case you don't... here is the clue...
"With our very flesh and blood,
Let us build our new Great Wall!
The peoples of China are in the most critical time,
Everybody must roar his defiance.
Arise!
Arise!
Arise!
Millions of hearts with one mind,
Brave the enemy's gunfire, March on!"

http://www.geocities.com/ccparty2002/patriot.html

I don't care whether he is a Chinese nationalist or not. There is plenty of Chinese artists living overseas...there are ones drawing pictures on NY subway station and got killed by local gangs...they didn't sell their souls for a piece of bread, they keeps their sense of shame...

Cai just don't have it... he might be a taoist... follow the trends, follow the clients' hint, follow the money and fame, just like Wang Jingwei, follow the conquerer...

Isha

But, of course, Mao Zedong was very, very much more destructive of Chinese culture than Cai will ever be.

we agree to disagree...

But truly now, how many deaths of Chinese people has Cai really been responsible for? Mao was responsible for millions and millions of dead Chinese people. Doesn't get much worse than that, does it?

Comparing Mao and Cai is not reasoned argument ... it does make sense for West's favoring Cai and and belaboring Mao, though. He made their comfortable world uncomfortable ...

Isha

But you brought Mao into the conversation in the very first comment.... You made Mao into the hero versus Cai the supposed traitor. But I agree, the comparison is strained. Mao was a killer of Chinese, Cai is not.

Here's a great video from the Cai Gugenheim exhibit:

http://www.scribemedia.org/2008/03/06/cai-guo-qiang/

Jeff,
Thanks for the link. Great stuff. I will add it to the post.

" Mao was a killer of Chinese, Cai is not"...Could we say, " Washington and Lincolon were killers of Americans"?

If we are going to discuss historical figures in such terms, all the discussions become meaningless.

Isha

Mao's leadership of the CCP during the revolution, before 1949, can be compared to Washington and Lincoln, and the deaths that were suffered in all of those cases can be understood in terms of war and civil war. But nothing Washington or Lincoln did comes even close to the utterly unnecessary killing of the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution.
Why do you feel it necessary to defend Mao's Great Leap and Cultural Revolution? Can't a Chinese nationalism be built precisely on a critique of Mao's obvious historical failures? That is what the CCP itself tries to do.

1.

On "Mao's Great Leap ": What is the agenda then for China (the agenda for China, now) was industrialization, which China has zero and steel production was MUCh lower than the Ching dynasty and China was surrounded by hostile power. China had NO capital, what was left from the invasions, civil wars were taken away to Taiwan. (Gold and hard currency). What Mao was doing was the the peasant mobilization. The making of steel in the backyard was not an effective way to make steel but it did mobilized and educated the rural population. Mao also spread the elementary education in the countryside. Therefore, after the opening up, the rural township enterprises mushroomed. So, the economic boom in Tang’s time didn't happen in the vacuum.

As one who have studies developmental theories, please tell me, after the WWII, which large agriarian society succeeded in the transformation to industrial society? Why these third world countries keep on having economic bankruptcies? Why they are still be plundered? Invaded? Looted? Raped? Humiliated?

They didn't transform themselves into industrial society and they didn't have their Maos.

It is very easy to belittle Mao's generation's struggle and strive. But look at the achievements, it is not much comparing with imperialist powers, but comparing with other semi-colonial economies, in Mao's time, China's established a heavy industry, built trucks, cars, tanks, ships even such things as N-bomb, N-sub, missile, satellite. (It was all done in Mao's time rather than Teng's time)According to the memorials published now, a lot of basic scientific research was also done in Mao's time.

Look at the history of industrialization around the world, which countries wasn't done with bloody, messy means? The only differences between China and the big powers is that the big powers inflicted the harm to other people around the world (which they regarded as sub-human, anyway), and in China the price was paid by its own people.


Isha


2.

As for commenting on Cultural Revolution, it is basically beyond my capacity to comment. ... just some thoughts...

a.

It was a revolution ... it was a cultural transformation ...

b.

It was bloody, just like French revolutions and Russian revolution ... Luckily for U.S. you don't have a revolution... the vast " empty " continental expansion did the trick

c.

USSR didn't have their CR, therefore the ruling elite was ruling the country the country like feudal lords, therefore it passed away. Pre-CR, China copied Soviet system, Mao recognized the danger of the system then.

d.

Cultural Revolution would a legacy for China's future development, considering the current situation.

e.

The real understand of the CR have to wait for the future historians ... when the dust, emotions and agendas settles down.

Isha

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